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II. The Ministry of All the Talents: The Whigs in Office, February 1806 to March 1807

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  11 February 2009

A. D. Harvey
Affiliation:
University College, Cambridge

Extract

The Ministry of All the Talents was essentially a coalition of three parties: the followers of Fox, of Grenville, and of Sidmouth. Yet in retrospect it was looked upon as principally a Whig ministry. This was partly because office consolidated what had hitherto been the rather uneasy alliance of Foxites and Grenvillites; partly also because for adherents of the main Foxite tradition of Whiggism the ministry of 1806 provided the only experience of government between 1783 and 1827.

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117 Viscount Folkestone is still a somewhat obscure figure. His attacks on Wellesley can be found in the Parliamentary Debates of 1806. He was a close friend of Cobbett and seems to have shared his disillusion with the Whigs.

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120 Ibid. col. 558.

121 Ibid. vol. vi, col. 570, 28 Mar. 1806.

122 Ibid. col. 601, 31 Mar. 1806.

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135 It is sometimes believed that the Talents were dismissed. The distinction between resignation and dismissal may seem semantic; but the term used on this particular occasion was invariably resignation: George III seems to have tried to put the onus of the fall of the ministry on the ministers themselves. ‘We have not even now resigned, but have left it to the King to consider what he would do on our declining to give him the pledge he has required. His decision has been to look out for other ministers’ (H.M.C., , Bathurst, p. 56,Google Scholar Lord Grenville to Lord Bathurst, 18 Mar. 1807).’ ‘…his Ministers all understood that he would think of another administration; but they did not resign, nor were dismissed’ (Diary of Lord Colchester, ii, 104.Google Scholar Diary, 19 Mar. 1807). ‘The King acquaints Lord Grenville that he is now prepared to receive the resignation of the offices held by himself and the other members of his Majesty's present Cabinet’ (Aspinall, A., Later Correspondence of George III, iv, 540,Google Scholar king to Lord Grenville, 24 Mar. 1807). But in 1783 the Fox-North coalition was quite unambiguously dismissed: ‘Lord North is by this required to send Me the Seals of his Department and to acquaint Mr. Fox to send those of the Foreign Department. Mr. Frazer or Mr. Nepean will be the proper Channel of delivering them to Me this Night. I choose this method as Audiences on such occasions must be unpleasant’ (SirFortescue, John, Correspondence of George III, vi, 476, 18 12 1783).Google Scholar

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